drops BYE! Slowing the video down shows that he aimed and shot at someone behind Bigby. The people acted irrationally and that's not the Fabletown Snow and Bigby were trying to promote. are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. fables.wikia.com One of the main ingame decisions that you make. The Crooked Man hearing from his right-hand woman Bloody Mary, that she will finish Bigby off quickly so that he wouldn't get near him. Many of the characters complaints are very inconsistent with their attitude earlier in the game. I'd like to believe that Bigby did the right thing by bringing him down. Yes. U are lucky that my english isnt well enough and Im to lazy to prove u that the croocked man are guilty XD and his lies are pathetic. Terms of Service / Privacy Policy. In Scotland, we have 3 verdicts: Guilty, Not Guilty and Not Proven. Snow's indifference/work overload + overly brutal sheriff? probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. I think that beating was just a warning on what he was dealing with to make Bigby think hard if he really wants to oppose them. Im sry but it seems ur just a fanboy or u luv to discuss things. He managed to survive a run in with that axe before, after all. We are in in the 2010's, when smartphones and social network spread PROOF of things way faster than posses can "repeat lies until they turn true". He did try to kill Bigby, he let everybody attack him. It's also pretty rich that Snow blames Bigby for winding up in violent situations - she chastises him for killing one of the Tweedles, so I guess she blanked on them repeatedly shooting Bigby with shotguns? I admit it would be difficult to prove in a proper trial, but again that doesn't make him innocent. Also the way his 'employees' were so ready to kill Bigby in the alley. prink34320. The Crooked Man Tells Bigby Who Killed The prostitutes GhostTheBerserker 29 subscribers Subscribe Like Share No views 55 seconds ago .more .more The Wolf Among Us 2013 Browse game. HOWEVER since he has showed willingness to kill before we can use it against him ;D. Should Snow White answer for the actions of Bigby? at least we know the crooked man tried to play it well, and he eventually tricked you instead of tricking fabletown!!! georgie's reactions in e.5 were completely full of srsness He also has a large stake in the Fabletown government, revealed when Crane was embezzling to pay him off. That was a point I forgot to make. fables.wikia.com. he puts ppl into debt (probably helped, but eventually he would kill the peeps who couldnt afford to pay back). WHY!? With OP's logic, Hitler, Stalin, etc. 2019 Telltale, Incorporated. They didn't just somehow mutually decided they were all going to hop out of their chairs and start attacking Bigby. The only thing more powerful than crushing the spirit of the Big Bad Wolf is to have him do your deeds. He later spares Bigby's life in exchange for the mayor. Episode 3: A Crooked Mile Killing Bigby would only make a martyr of him and people could use him as a symbol of hope. They only didn't kill him because they were 'ordered' not to. Are you kidding me?^^ The Crooked man lied in the whole trial. It was precisely the point. But I don't buy that Crooky was oblivious to the impact of his words. He wasn't innocent, but lets play he was. As for Bigby's story, I go for the half way Bad Wolf. Someone sure as heck was being held as a slave. beauty and the beast reported to bigby for help 4 and listen for a bit, you can hear the Crooked Man's voice saying something along the lines of "He'll come around." Crooked Man pointing a silver-laden revolver at Bigby, as he explains his plan on Fabletown. => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. Remember the ankle chains covered in blood at the butcher's shop? The CM saw he wasn't going to be able to get Bigby to cooperate, so he told his goons to kill him. The Crooked Man remains polite and calm while being confronted by Bigby, but escapes with Bloody Mary when things turn hostile. I mean dont u realized it?^^ U really believed him after the things u see and more heard about him? I killed the crooked man and the ending brings out my biggest complaint of this game. The impact of killing him and realising it might have been for nothing is so much greater when the final twist happens. heard about him? He's smart enough to know how his lackey Georgie would have interpreted his words. The way Georgie describes, he assumed that The Crooked Man meant "kill them". FFS, stop being an airhead on "Poor crooked man's innocence", it might stick in the 80's, but today it's known bullshit. He actually hadn't been sentenced yet. 4. Many of which were looking for blood, then in the . The whole point of Nerissa/Faith's scheme was to have the Crooked Man outed. And conspiracy to murder plus joint enterprise. Crooked Manis the main antagonist of the 2013- 2014 video gameThe Wolf Among Us Season 1.He's a Fable and a powerful crime lord who's influence over all of Fabletown matches that of its government and holds much of its population within his grasp via his enforcements. Also pretty cool of her to send Bigby in to take on the crooked man by himself, despite seeing him get an absolute thrashing from Bloody Mary. I must admit that I still believe he was indeed guilty, but I can see why you'd think he wasn't. What if he only meant for G moreeorgie to resolve the matter without the intent of violence? Who knows? 1. What if he only meant for Georgie to resolve the matter without the intent of violence? The Crooked Man didn't lie about anything, the other Fables confirmed his points. the whole town is afraid of him, providing that they more are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. July 2014. He is encountered again at a large foundry after Bigby kills Bloody Mary. The idea of being trapped in an animal's body and surrounded by mundane animals that don't have the intelligence and power that you have sounds like a fate worse than death or jail. Also, if you wait by the door at the end of Ep. The rest bring him alive. Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. In the next episode he'll talk to Bigby and try to sugarcoat what he's been doing and probably does want Bigby on his side as muscle. I would be more open to the "misunderstood my intent" thing if he hadn't ordered Mary kill to Bigby in the same manner. You can ask him why would he want a trial if Fables are likely to sentence him to death. He is cunning, persuasive, and ruthless \"Wolf Among Us\" Telltale PC Game. His operation started with a crooked sixpence and a crooked house - two things he cared about more than his wife or children, whom he killed rather than let them stand in his way. I just wish the game had given you the option of putting CM in holding while you gather more evidence, especially since the girls were now free to speak and CM's minions scattered. Why did the Crooked Man spare Bigby back in Episode Three? His entire line of defense was "I'm helping you, they're not". 2. shot near him (threatened he wont miss next time) The Crooked Man hands Georgie over to Bigby, infuriating Georgie. Episode 3 "A Crooked Mile" : He ordered a hit on the game's protagonist Bigby Wolf in an attempted to kidnap the towns mayor . They could have just talked to Bigby about it before shit got worse "Victim blaming" means nothing. He directly employs the Tweedles and Bloody Mary as his muscle, and has a controlling interest in the Pudding \u0026 Pie, since he and his henchmen show up after Georgie is shown to be making a phone call about a \"problem\" as Snow and Bigby apprehend Ichabod Crane. What more could he want. Given that this takes place before the comics, I'd say it's very likely that Bigby would kill Dum (he fired at Fabletown residents with a shotgun ffs). That was a point I forgot to make. The characte ris cool yes. kidnapped crane He is the puppeteer responsible for ordering the murders of Faith and Lily. Put his minions by force there, threatening him, and using shackled slave labor to make his goods, thus making it cheaper than the legit stuff. Reminded me of Henry II's "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?!". I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. If it wasn't revealed, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The Crooked Man attacking Bigby with his cuffs as he attempts to escape his sentencing. In the game, players control Bigby Wolf, the sheriff of Fabletown - a clandestine community within 1980s New York City consisting of various fantastical characters from fairy tales and folklore - and must investigate a series of mysterious murders; the first ones to occur in Fabletown in a long time. Pretty brilliant idea. He doesn't look suicidal, so he has a plan and definitely a backup ready. A tense standoff occurs between the two due to him holding a gun fully loaded with silver bullets (Which would kill Bigby instantly). Unsurprisingly, alongside Bluebeard, he is one of the most hated characters in the game, both by fans and even the other characters in-game. Bigby in the comics kills Crane because he betrayed Fabletown and had rape fantasies of Snow. Also, Nerissa later admits that her confession was a complete lie. No actual slave from the butcher shop was revealed, though. Maybe the murders weren't directly his fault and Georgie really DID misinterpret one of his instructions? The way Georgie describes, he assumed that The Crooked Man meant "kill them". you are going edit lot, then make yourself user and login. Before Bigby can announce his decision, the Crooked Man uses his cufflinks to strangle Bigby and tries to throw him down the well. Like he said, his associates tried to kill him. Are you kidding me?^^ The Crooked man lied in the whole trial. held legally accountable for the murders. he puts ppl into debt (probably helped, but eventually he would kill the peeps who couldnt afford to pay back). She is . Part of the Episode 5: \"Cry Wolf\". Maybe that's what he wants to talk to Bigby about at the end of Episode Four. Stop wasting your time getting in stupid arguments. It is also worth mentioning that despite the Crooked Man being sentenced, you will be able to decide about his fate. > . Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Man, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. Or , long shot, Vivian. interfered with an official murder investigation Personally I would say he is guilty. > As the Crooked Man's primary enforcer, she acts as his ace in the hole when he wants to guarantee a job gets done or there's a person that needs to die. \"Wolf Among Us\" Telltale PC Game. The way people like the Crooked Man work is they make sure they never actually say anything explicitly which would incriminate themselves for something like murder. As much as I don't want it to be true, I think it's Nerissa. Oops, I'm scrolling on a tiny phone, didn't realize someone had already posted this. We all know that he was guilty, even you know it. beauty and the beast reported to bigby for help. Bigby manages to track the Crooked Man down to Sheppard Metalworks, and after he defeats Bloody Mary, he takes the Crooked Man to the Witching Well where he is given a trial. However, tensions quickly flare up between the two, and he offers to give up Georgie Porgie in exchange for an alliance. If Bigby kills the Crooked Man, he can shut up the entire room during the later argument with a growl. 4 and listen for a bit, you can hear the Crooked Man's voice saying something along the lines of "He'll come around.". He DISTRIBUTED THE STUFF. I have no problem clarifying things. Crooked Man is the main antagonist of the 2013- 2014 video game The Wolf Among Us Season 1.He's a Fable and a powerful crime lord who's influence over all of Fabletown matches that of its government and holds much of its population within his grasp via his enforcements. The Crooked Man has slowly built himself into one of the most powerful figures in Fabletown. He was still an asshole, good enough reason for me to kill him. I dont get it i choose to kill the crooked man and after the game it says to me 10,4 % choose kill him. Because he's a calm, reasonable man who got flabbergasted by her frantic assertiveness. The Crooked Man is a Fable and the main antagonist of The Wolf Among Us. The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. Technically speaking, if all he told Georgie to do was "take care of it" or "deal with it" (as Georgie suggested), I'm not sure he could be moreheld legally accountable for the murders. [Rip his head off] - You kill the Crooked Man right away. All rights reserved. Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Ma moren, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. He is directly responsible for the series of events that form the central conflict of the game. Bloody Mary is the main Secondary antagonists in Telltale's The Wolf among us, serving as the major antagonists in Episodes 3 and 5. Maybe the Crooked Man just felt like rather than trying to kill Bigby, which could prove to be futile, he'd just try to sway him instead. If you rip his head off then he achieves his purpose. There was no excuse for them to let someone take advantage of them when they all had the power to prevent their problems with their centuries worth of wisdom and knowledge. Crane was protected with OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVES, who the hell he is to say it was for CRANE's protection that he took him from the LAW? Episode 5 "Cry Wolf" The episode begins within his lair, with him being warm and welcoming towards the sheriff. His plan would be to make Fabletown afraid of the Wolf. I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? It was for HIS OWN protection. They tried to kill him because the CM heavily implied that they should. Bigby is extremely powerful, and even though he was weakened by the silver bullet at the time, even though Mary had the Woodsman's axe, there's still no guarantee that she could have completely "killed" him. Im sry but it seems ur just a fanboy or u luv to discuss things. pointed a gun at bigby. I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. Terms of Service / Privacy Policy. I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? I think that him wanting Bigby on his side is a very good guess. He explained how he helped them. The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. He basely beat up almost all of his henchmen with ease, scary. Enslaved and kept who in debt? Antagonists Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. The Crooked Man will be sentenced for ordering the killing of two women. Depending on how you play him, he uses excessive force on Gren, beats Dee/Woody during an interrogation, kills Dum. The question is. weren't guilty of murders either since they simply ordered it. georgie's reactions in e.5 were completely full of srsness Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. Considering the end of the chapter, which is also the end of the first season, this choice will have its consequences in later adventures of Bigby Wolf. The Crooked Man seems like a smart enough man to not order a murder, especially of 2 fables, when it would obviously lead back to him eventually. grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. I think you need to give a more direct order to be convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. The Crooked Man meets Bigby. Bloody Mary is a sadistic murderer who longs to find ways to continue murdering as she pleases. All rights reserved. Where it's Bigby trying to redeem himself but occasionally falls back into his Wolf tendencies. You know. Plus, Nerissa just flat out lied about him giving the order. Edit much you wish, but one little thing. The real question is whether or not those were pre amnesty days. He had lots of chances to riddle him with silver, he didn't opt for that. He wanted to crush Bigby, or turn him, and use that as his symbol of strength and power. He was blackmailing crane for decades, knowing the money that he got came from embezzling from Fabletown, and MISUNDERSTANDING doesn't describe the order of kidnapping Crane from LAW ENFORCERS. probably there ain't a strong proof, but we know what's up. the whole town is afraid of him, providing that they are already dead because they didnt go according to what he wants. True he did kill his family HOWEVER since he probably did sign the Fable Town charter he was given Amnesty for any crimes commited in the Homelands. Sorry regardless of what he represents, you have the burden of proof and rarely is the testimony of one person enough to convict this man of some of the crimes he was accused. You're still the boss, you're still ultimately responsible for any misunderstanding. In his rise, The Crooked Man has ensnared many Fables in his criminal web, providing them with what they need, but always at a high cost. I would say if you believe he's innocent then you've been duped by him just like everyone else in fabletown. As for the Crooked Man's choice, it's the same as Dum really. Imagine being a magical being with the intelligence of a human, but having to trot next to mindless pigs for the rest of your life. Like how he literally kept them in chains in the back of the butcher shop? Episode 4: "In Sheep's Clothing" He is mentioned many times throughout the episode by his thugs and finally makes his first appearance at the end of the episode, in his lair with all of his thugs. Crane was then killed by Bigby and he made it look like an accident. => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. this site. The Crooked Man requests he is kept alive and brought to trial, which is what Snow White wanted, depending on the players decisions, he may or may not be brought to the Fabletown Government for a trial. I'd want Bigby on my side. Which is why I think he's just as guilty as the Crooked Man is, if not moreso. Bigby was still internally debating. If he was innocent, then why the hell did he shut up when Nerissa spoke? The first mention of the Crooked Man comes if Bigby decides to capture Tweedledee in the Trip Trap. If he simply had Bigby killed in the alleyway, no one would have been left to oppose him. We only have the victims' word for what The Crooked Man has done to them, but that is good enough in my opinion. He still killed his family he's still a murderer. shot near him (threatened he wont miss next time). Tell me why i only see the reason Miss Snow say bring him alive. Part of the Episode 5: \"Cry Wolf\". It would've been interesting if he pulled Bigby down with him and prompted a quick time event to pull himself up. => and yet mr. leatherwolf89 says he's innocent. Crooked Man didn't want Bigby dead. grabbed then dragged bigby during his ''trial'', attempting to murder him. who is he shooting? Even if he didn't kill those girls, he was just plain bad for Fabletown. The Crooked Man is not guilty of the murders, that's the whole point of this thread. Like Bluebeard killing his wives, people aren't allowed to talk about it. I mean why did u think was the crooked man so affraid when nerissa enters the ring? Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! You know. Alternately, after tracking through five episodes of bullshit and subterfuge to get to the bottom of who exactly is corrupting Fabletown, you can drag the Crooked Man before a court and then tear his head off and throw it into the Well in . He also uses the Jersey Devil as muscle, with his pawn shop The Lucky Pawn being a front for his loansharking activities. Eventually, all the thugs get in a fight with Bigby and the Crooked Man and Bloody Mary escape to his limo. He is directly responsible for the series of events that form the central conflict of the game. leatherwolf89 i just realised that the CM manipulated you and now your in his pocket :DDD. Plus his 'associates' those who work under him attacked Bigby and nearly killed him multiple times and Georgie murdered under The Crooked Man, whether or not The Crooked Man did actually tell Georgie to kill the girls, The Crooked Man is still somewhat responsible for the acts of his employees. Georgie The Crooked Man reveals Georgie as Faith and Lily's killer and claims he misunderstood his orders to deal with them, but Georgie asserts the Crooked Man told him to kill the women. In the trailer there is a scene where Bigby confronts the Crooked Man and he shoots. but still, he's guilty in many ways. You don't have anything to do? Bigby then counters him, and now can make his decision as the Crooked Man arrogantly taunts the population by saying that they will need him, and that the town will suffer without his guidance. EDIT: As many people pointed out, he probably fired a . Villains who aren't revealed to be bad at first. Who is the killer of faith wolf among us? His reply would be that it's his problem or something. Also, if you wait by the door at the end of Ep. Watch other \"Wolf Among Us\" videos: http://bit.ly/wolfamong It would have been easier just to kill Bigby since he's been a huge thorn in his side, but he doesn't.
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